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Posted 12 November 2009 - 08:45 PM

The Hasan case is troubling because it exposes the deep reach of political correctness into military institutions--to the point of undermining very basic assumptions about how low educated, professional people will allow standards to go. Steve Sailer links to an unsettling CNN article:

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A second former medical school colleague of Hasan said several people raised concerns about Hasan's overall competence.

Even though Hasan earned his medical degree and residency, some of his fellow students believed Hasan "didn't have the intellect" to be in the program and was not academically rigorous in his coursework.

Hasan "was not fit to be in the military, let alone in the mental health profession," this classmate told CNN. "No one in class would ever have referred a patient to him or trusted him with anything."

The first classmate echoed this sentiment.

Hasan was "coddled, accommodated and pushed through that masters of public health despite substandard performance," the classmate said. He was "put in the fellowship program because they didn't know what to do with him."


If true, this is well beyond the Peter Principle in its dysfunctionality. Allowing someone this clearly disturbed to attain the position Hasan held--a psychiatrist who counseled returning Iraq veterans, no less--despite the apparent widespread view of his peers that he was basically unsuited to his profession, amounts to systematic malpractice and a chilling harbinger of the future.

One commenter quipped, "Since when do Arabs get affirmative action?" I don't think the affirmative action that Hasan benefited from was an official quota (as used with chronically underperforming blacks and hispanics), but rather the SWPL "diversity is our strength" variety of affirmative action where a culture of "let's see more colored people and women around here" allows failures like Hasan to find a niche in the system despite their incompetence or even insanity.It's becoming more evident that this sort of thing is absolutely rampant, particulary as contemporary white collar business culture sets the bar for achievement so low and puts such a heavy emphasis on HR-driven politics. And of course since 9/11 the feds have been adamant about refusing to face realities regarding attitudes and loyalties of immigrants with very strong religious/ethnic identities. The 9/11 hijackers were far from clever, but the system was designed to ignore blaring alarms lest some thin-skinned faggot screech his outrage.

SWPL also get to feel like patrons when they shield women and minorities through (it's perhaps more pervasive with women). As in, look at how I am helping this underprivileged person who is a victim of our horrible culture. I think I'm pretty awesome!

This of course feeds resentment among the failures--there's nothing more humiliating than realizing that your position and status have not been earned but rather given to you out of pity for your obvious inferiority. SWPL condescension stings like sulfuric acid. Just look at Henry Louis Gates. All it took was some college town flatfoot to put his massive insecurities on the front page.


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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:01 PM

Two recent movies highlight the SWPL version of noblesse oblige: Precious and The Blind Side both offer trite homilies of uplift on the virtues of condescending to one's fellow darky basket cases (earlier in the year we had The Soloist). Note that it is essential the darky be a complete washout of a human being, preferably the product of abuse or insanity (as in Hasan's case), so that the white patron can feel uplift over even the most trivial accomplishments--getting the darky to wash his face or eat from a plate, for example.

This is not a healthy undercurrent.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:06 PM

Heard on some NPR show tonight that his academic superiors wondered whether they were too easy on Hasan because they were afraid of his religious beliefs.

Or maybe they said that they were too hard on him because of said beliefs.

Doesn't matter--it was more or less an admission that they were focussed on the wrong things because, well, fuck, he's ethnic. Not whitebread, anyway. WHAT'S A THOUGHTFUL HONKY TO DO?
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:15 PM

Plus if your darky subordinate fingers you for racism (and you just never know when that will happen with these disgruntled faggots), what will your SWPL friends think of you? *brr*

Also if they really said they were maybe too hard on him, they were certainly lying for the benefit of SWPL mythology (m-maybe I was unconsciously discriminating...it feels so soul-cleansing to finally talk about this!)
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:39 PM

Lawrence Auster is something of a paranoid, nitpicking asshole, but his First Law of Majority-Minority Relations is very apt: "under liberalism, the more incompetent, unassimilable, or hostile a minority or non-Western person is, the more lies must be told to protect him, because the more negative the truth about a minority person, the more racist it is to speak the truth about him."

So, because Hasan was so bad (dumb, crazy and personally difficult), his good PC superiors decided that he must therefore be promoted and coddled even more than normal.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:39 PM

Grutter stands for the proposition that some minority quantum in higher education is a legitimate educational priority since diversity is inherently good; therefore, if a numbers-driven admissions process presents too few blacks, or whatever, it's fine to corrupt it by looking at the students' photos to see if they're sufficiently Bennetton to make a pleasingly mottle-portraited viewbook. Of course, the Court was naive enough to say that 25 years of affirmative action ought to be enough; too bad that's dicta.

Only around thirty blacks a year break 170 (98th percentile) on the LSAT. If you're not part of a favored minority, you need around 170 to get into a top ten or 'national' law school. There are around 3000 spots per year at those schools, meaning that, going purely by LSAT, there should be about 1% blacks at those schools. Since the schools want to hit about 8%, they give blacks about 10 points for being black. Not a big deal, you say? Well, the score range runs from 120 to 180, so 10 points is 16%, about one standard deviation.

Blacks at good law schools are generally in way over their heads. I believe the stat is that 50% of them are in the bottom 10%? Something like that. I found law school a miserable enough experience as it was, I can't imagine how much I'd have hated it if everyone else there had an average of 15 IQ points on me.

Sailer had something a few months back about the absolutely shameful scores that black med school admits generally post. Presumably his figures are good and we can say that blacks in professional schools are generally competing against their intellectual superiors. Can you imagine how much humiliation they endure, day in and day out, never getting As? Everyone they're in school with knows that their credentials are sub-par. I didn't see a single one in my federal courts class, which is the prep class for federal clerkships & appellate practice.

This really isn't anything to do with this guy Hasan at all, except to point out just how bad the AA gaps are. They are not 'a slight edge, a few points.' They are immense. And incompetent beneficiaries of AA don't love or feel loyal to the system. They feel ressentiment toward the whites, Jews, and Asians who seem to slip through it so easily and with so little shame.

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:34 AM

View PostBushrodButtram, 12 November 2009 - 11:39 PM:

This really isn't anything to do with this guy Hasan at all, except to point out just how bad the AA gaps are. They are not 'a slight edge, a few points.' They are immense. And incompetent beneficiaries of AA don't love or feel loyal to the system. They feel ressentiment toward the whites, Jews, and Asians who seem to slip through it so easily and with so little shame.


In my mind, the problem with AA is not so much the magnitude of the gap but its pervasiveness. It's not simply a matter of Harvard Law students being inferior to their classmates. Every minority student/employee will end up being outclassed by their peers. It's like some kind of pre-emptive Peter Principle that ensures no non-Asian minority will ever be adequate for their position.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:57 AM

View PostBushrodButtram, 12 November 2009 - 10:39 PM:

Only around thirty blacks a year break 170 (98th percentile) on the LSAT.


When you look at the numbers it is always shocking. In a nation of 300 million people the cohort of high IQ blacks is so small they must all know each other. Most Americans are unaware of this. (It also partly explains why Jews dominate--an IQ edge doesn't make a little difference, it makes a huge difference--in the aggregate, which is how we have to deal with this issue.)

But where affirmative action gets crazy is when it has to protect their kids. The regression to the mean is brutal and professional blacks will not bear seeing their offspring drop down a couple of quintiles in earning potential and social status. They just won't. And their kids will develop resentments based on perceived unfairness. Especially when you are average or lower IQ, it is very difficult to evaluate the intelligence of those around you, so they don't think of themselves as not measuring up.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 09:15 AM

View PostBushrodButtram, 12 November 2009 - 09:39 PM:

Blacks at good law schools are generally in way over their heads. I believe the stat is that 50% of them are in the bottom 10%? Something like that. I found law school a miserable enough experience as it was, I can't imagine how much I'd have hated it if everyone else there had an average of 15 IQ points on me.


This is a really important point. A top 20 law school is full of very smart, mostly very neurotic and insecure people trying to prove themselves intellectually. It's liable to create psychodrama for normal people who got there on the merits. For an AA black or other minority, it would likely cause resentment and alienation. See, e.g., Michelle Obama, who had everything handed to her, and yet only got angry and more demanding.
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